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8dp5dt line progression ivf twins. Feb 15, 2018 · Poas line progression - posted in PG after IVF: For those who poas before beta for fet, when did you test and which day did you start seeing results? A lot of vlogs on youtube talk about line progression, will it work the same with a digital yes/no? Or will it be no all the way until solid line? My wife is 8dp5dt and 8 days post 250mcg trigger. Jan 5, 2021 · What was your hcg level at 14dp5dt. Yesterday I bought FRER and Clear Blue. May 11, 2024 · 8DP5DT - FRER Line Progression The first test was 6dp5dt at 5am The second test was 7dp5dt at 9pm (had time to darken which doesn't SurrogateFriend • 5 days ago Mar 29, 2016 · bee214. 4%, and in 2020, that number fell to 2. *Sensitive* Anxious about line progression with frer! IVF fresh cycle. Last edited 03-18-22. Oct 2, 2019 · 7dp5dt - Very Faint BFP 2 days in a row. I think you’re looking good. You’re pregnant – it’s in the blood. TRIGGER WARNING. I am trying not to panic. That doesn’t make it any easier though. Had my BFP on March 20th. I also did a clear blue digital yesterday morning and got a big old positive. Serum β-HCG is proportional to the number and activity of the trophoblastic cells, and research shows that a higher serum β-HCG level is associated with pregnancy outcomes and IVF success. Pregnancy Week 41. Is this normal or should I be worried? All were taken with FMU. My OTD is Tuesday but I have zero chill, and tested yesterday (7dp5dt) fully expecting there to be no line so I could get on with my day, but there was a faint line (Top Clearblue test in photo)! I then used one of the test strips (One Step) straight after, and got a vvvvv. May 29, 2024 · 8DP5DT - FRER Line Progression. 8dp5dt Lines . Twins/Singleton: Singleton. I made the mistake of getting a clear blue digital (the one where it says how many weeks along you are) and tested at 6dp5dt and it said ‘not pregnant’ which sent me into a spiral. I know that HCG doubles every 48-72 hours. 15 Oct first beta - 130 HCG on 9dp5dt. My beta at 9dp5dt came back positive but it’s only at 20. Line darker at 10dp but now today 12dp line getting lighter (the bottom one on picture). Mar 17, 2022 · thatismahogany · 17/03/2022 17:51. Also my friend that has twins spotted a week before and after her positive beta. Sep 19, 2023 · Hi all - I tested for the first time today at 8dp5dt and got a faint positive. Good Morning! I’m hoping for some input (good or bad) regarding my lines. Can't face another negative test its heartbreaking everytime. And congrats on your BFP xx. I have tested every day starting on 8/12 (3dp). It’s produced by your placenta after conception. Hey, I’m hoping someone could give me some words of encouragement s I’m feeling so deflated today. Also, didn’t realize the FRER caps were different, the light pink caps I’ve had vvvfl starting 5dp5dt but this morning it was the dark pink cap and a squinter. She said it could go either way and that I’m to stay on all meds and I have a second beta on Friday. Spent the evening cramping on my left side, the anxiety of testing on Monday is too much. Second beta test results - 12 days post 5 day frozen embryo transfer. I was drinking a lot of work thinking it would help with my headaches and thirst. First is 6dpt and second is 8dpt both taken at around 5. Mar 18, 2022 · IVF 9DP5DT line progression. May 30, 2024 · I'm 8dp5dt and I am concerned with how light these tests are. Instagram: @sara83mariaProducts I use/highly recommend:Inositol – improves egg quality, Mar 24, 2019 · Hello. Any help appreciated. May 8, 2018 · Beta Hell! My clinic has told me to be cautiously optimistic, but I’m hoping to hear from another’s that has similar numbers. I'm a newbie at this but have spent the past few days obsessively googling lines and I'd say they look good! There's definite progression and 15dpo is still quite early, some people don't even get a positive test until a little later than this. IVF #2 my eggs/Manada's uterus January/February 2014. I honestly don’t think that’s a bad number. 2nd beta (10dp5dt) was 210. Slightly nervous that my test from this morning 10dp5dt does not have progression from yesterdays test if anything maybe a bit lighter. What does everyone think? Should it be darker for 8dp5dt(13dpo). But honestly OP, I think your progression looks just fine. Its hard because early pg symptoms are so close to period symptoms! Jul 28, 2021 · Jul 28, 2021 at 1:02 PM. Baby measured 6w0d and heartbeat was 120bpm. Essure Procedure to treat bilateral hydrosalpinx; June 2012, wait 3 months for confirmation test. Reply reply Jun 10, 2020 · I don’t have a labeled progression but mine were pretty light. I am 8 days past my 5 day transfer so essentially 13dpo My tests were getting darker but seem to have leveled off and im worried that they haven't changed in two days now. Anonymous. Hi everyone! I am 7 days past my single 5AA FET. Apr 29, 2013 at 7:31 AM. The percentage of eSETs rose from 22. Apr 12, 2018 · Post your Beta HcG results here - Part 5. I’m not feeling too confident in my line pro On our first cycle of IVF and feeling very worried about my test progression. This is my second FET. My second beta was 8dp6dt and rose to 58. Bottom is 9dp5dt and my beta was 66 that Day. Have my first ultrasound today! Christina1084. Jun 10, 2020 at 5:32 AM. 6. Aug 7, 2018 · kittykat76. My line at 9DP5DT looks lighter than 8DP5DT. 5% from 2011 to 2020. Posted 04-23-24. Chipchaps •. It was a frozen embryo transfer. Today is 6dp and I got another negative this morning on a FRER test. On day 4 I was seriously emotional, day 5 lower back ache for a short while & day 7 very mild AF cramping (which I know can be the Ovulation calculator. For many years I have used these group threads for support but have never posted. I'll be 9w on Saturday and have my first OB appt next week. I believe that FRER can pick up HCG as low as 6. Jan 26, 2024 · I caved and tested early today 8dp5dt of a frozen blast. Physical symptoms are pretty much a wash in the tww when you've gone through fertility treatments, because they can all pretty much be attributed to the meds you're taking. A woman got a neg hpt at 8dp5dt and with until her beta 2 days later. Here’s my picture of my tests from 8dp5dt and today 10dp5dt. Please someone help me stay sane 😭. Apr 16, 2024 · Because of the advances in technology, the chances of twins with IVF have decreased in the last decade. Thoughts? I felt some intense cramping and experienced implantation bleeding on 4dp5dt (4/26/24). The fact that you have the whole progression since the trigger is confusing at first, there’s that pretty dark line at 4dp5dt that probably still has some of the trigger since it’s so dark for 9dpo and almost disappears the next day. Daisy3220. First test was Estimated 9DPO and last at 14DPO. many women to bleed. Gutted. I transferred a day 5 2BB on March 14th. 15 weeks now with a healthy baby girl (2nd pic is from 14w1d). Hi ladies-. It's been 5 days post transfer aside from back pains, and feeling tired mostly on night times, and clear fluid discharge which my RE told me is normal because of Endometrins, there is nothing really unusual feels that I get right now. I knew I was out. But why does it happen, what’s the percentage chance of having IVF twins, and how does the pregnancy feel? I got a very very faint line on a strip test at 5dp5dt. We have been doing IVF for the past 3 years and excited to see our first BFP on 6dp5dt. I scoured the Internet and could only find one story. My ultrasound isn’t until 6wks I just can’t wait so trying to hold on to whatever till then. Please be sensitive and kind. 11 months ago • 4 Replies. It's really hit or miss. 8dp5dt no symptoms. I got a positive of FR digital, & Clearblue digital… Oct 11, 2021 · So below is the line progression I had on First Response Early Results (FRER) from 3dp5dt to 11dp5dt. & compare the same time of day. Just wanted to check in and see if others had rather faint lines on later days Hello everyone!This is our first transfer / first round of IVF using FET. The other phot is 14dp5d and 16dp5d. Beta hCG (aka β-hCG ) is a quantitative serum test (done by your fertility clinic) to determine the level of hCG hormone present in your blood. Got my first bfp on 6dp5dt. I’ve lost three so far and so each day I am worried about getting bad news. Jul 24, 2020 · Hi guys,This is my line progression from 7-8 days post 5 day transfer. Both FMU. This morning (8am) at 10dp5dt with fast response I tested. Flower14 •. Now I’m onto day 6 and I’m worrying that my lines aren’t getting darker. Hcg doubles every 48 hours so that’s where you’ll see the best differences. I'm 8dp5dt and got the fainttttest of faint positives yesterday on an FRER (7dp5dt). We transferred a euploid 5aa girl on Friday, March 12. We have already failed 4 IUIS. . 5. 30K subscribers in the IVF community. Jun 19, 2021 · Line Progression . I've had a mmc and a chemical and have an awful May 17, 2022 · 8dp5dt and BFP after BFN! c. . I've been HPT everyday since 5DP5DT with a stark white BFN on Dollar Tree tests. My second transfer I waited until 8dp5dt because I was worried continuing PIO if it was negative and only needed to take PIO one more day if it was negative. First ended in MMC but I got my BFP 6dp5dt with 2 4AA blasts. I feel that 8dpt may be lighter then the day before. IVF twins can feel like twice the miracle. Crossing my fingers for you! Jun 1, 2018 · TTC since 2008. May 31, 2022 · The progression looks noticeable to me, and the last line is pretty dark for 8dp5dt. My HCG blood draw isn’t until the 24th, and I’m going a bit stir-crazy. I did a first response and got a line but then did a digital to double check and it definitely looks like a BFP 🤞🏻 My OTD isn’t until Tuesday when I go for a blood test so 4 more days to wait. Just as title says, I got the faintest line (bird&be) starting 5dp5dt and having the world’s slowest progression since (but still getting ever so slightly darker & always positive). So, if you are picking up a level that low the next day your levels would only rise by a few points since it takes 2-3 days to double to 13. 1. (A chemical in Jan ‘22 and Sending hugs! I’m currently 3dp5dt and also have a dog that needs to be put to sleep soon and it’s so so hard, on top of the incredibly hard process of IVF. Hey everyone, I’d love some Is this line dark enough for 8 days post transfer? Pic in comments. Apr 15, 2013 · 8dp5dt. 31K subscribers in the IVF community. 3%. I got back again tomorrow for my second beta. KJTM. boymamac3. Hi all. My second transfer resulted in a chemical pregnancy, but my tests that time faded quickly and never got so dark. That's really good to hear - the cramping has been panicking me a bit, so thank you. Go to IVF r/IVF • by Playful_Albatross351. This AM at 8DP5DT I got a stark white BFN on FRER, but a super 8dp5dt BFP Lines not getting darker. TIA!! As long as your numbers double, you should be good . Is this line progression? Preg be test from 6dp5dt, 7dp5dt and 8dp5dt. I am having a hard time b/c I just took a second "first response" pregnancy test 8dp5dt of 2 frozen blasts. I got a positive digital day 5 at night also. My symptoms progressed over the weekend with tender breast, nausea and intense headaches. Clinic said it’s ‘high enough’ and we’ll retest in 48 hours. In beta hell! 45 at 8dp5dt. Pregnancy Week 40. Sep 13, 2020 · 4 years ago • 33 Replies. 635 posts · Joined 2016. I transferred 2 4bb’s. Aug 10, 2021 · Starsnspikes · 12/08/2021 09:20. Tried natural, femara, clomid, puregon/follistim, clomid and menopur combo, both the ovidrel and HCG triggers. But I have seen people on here with higher beta's than me and have singletons! I did however transfer 2 embryos so it was a risk that we took. I don’t want to compare but my lines don’t look at dark Jul 19, 2021 · Line progression, or lack of it 😭. My 1st beta came out at 30 so it’s not looking good. I have never seen a positive test ever. Hi everyone, this is my first post. Has anyone had slow line progression on frer's and everything been ok? I first tested at 9dp5dt (14dpo- top test) and got an obvious positive but i've tested daily since and the lines seem to be staying the same. Goblin brain also convinced itself it saw a Dec 5, 2019 · Hi, I am 8DP5DT (2 blasts) with my beta/OTD tomorrow. I don’t have any symptoms. May 19, 2019 · Pregnancy Week 39. Mar 29, 2016 at 12:49 PM. The line is visible but fainter than most others I’ve seen here for 8dpt. Mar 24, 2015 · Here are the 10 key things you should know about your HCG levels. Wondering if anyone had this and still went on to get a positive beta test. I was beyond ecstatic! :) 7dp5dt and 8dp5dt were showing a progress as the line was getting darker - see the photo. I tested again on a FRER at 10dp5dt and the line did not get darker than the 8dp5dt test. 3 years ago • 20 Replies. I tested and got a faint line on easy @ home cheapie. I have also been taking tests on easy@home and they are barly showing up and just showing faint shadows. On Monday, I took a test in the morning, the line was Feb 2, 2022 · My ERA said I needed more lactobacillus in my uterus and 24 more hours of progesterone! So it told us a lot! My immune protocol is simply prednisone 10mg/day, Claritin 1 pill per day, and 1 Pepcid AC per day! I started them the morning after my transfer, and will take them until 14-15 weeks, and then I’ll taper down! Oct 16, 2019 · 10 Oct - nothing apart slightly swollen breasts. I’ve been having on and off symptoms with today being the most noticeable (cramping , “pulling” around my uterus, intermittent nausea). 8dp5dt line progression I had a 5 day embryo transfer Friday 7/30 I’ve had a positive since 4 days post transfer. I’m new to this group. I will post the picture in the comments. My line progression hasn’t really changed in the last three days though, I’m getting nervous. I had a great beta at 14dpt and 21dpt, saw the heartbeat at 6w5d and have graduated from my fertility clinic. Images are hidden by default on this community. She said if my number is over 2000 I don't have to have the third test and we will Sep 19, 2023 · Hey everyone! I just took my first test 7dp5dt (FET) and the line is clearly there and pink but it’s faint…my son was a fresh transfer 2 years ago and his test was a clear positive by 8dp5dt and my HCG was over 600 at 10dp5dt… Dec 2, 2020 · Fertility Network UK. I guess I was expecting my rest to be darker today. Im worried these are faulty tests. Hi, So I tested early yesterday at 7dp5dt and got a faint line! I have tested again today with two different type of tests and the line is much stronger. I tested again at 9dp5dt and 10dp5dt and got bfn's. Thank you! IVF pregnancy so worried with infertility experience. Does this look okay? I’ve had 2 chemical miscarriages so I’m really nervous. #2 · Aug 7, 2018. I was up all night going to the toilet and there is a faint line but can see it more than the photo. The other day I saw this girl take a poll on IG, and it was 50/50 on those who got symptoms but had negative beta vs. I’ve had every symptom since day 4ish but today they have lightened up a bit and I’m mostly feeling period like cramps and had some brown blood on the tissue. It caused me a lot of anxiety but tbh for me it was better than not knowing. TW Positive Test. I had my first beta on Friday, it was 77 at 8DP5DT. That just never seems to be the case with IVF, I guess! comments sorted by Best Top New Controversial Q&A Add a Comment IVF 1- March 2012 Antagonist Protocol; BCP until March 3; AFC this cycle is 10 (Hooray); Start stims on March 9; ER on March 19- 2R; 2T (1 perfect 8 cell, 1 scrappy 3 cell); tubal infection from ER-hospitalized. Did have a trigger but that will be long gone now and tests did darken visibly, especially since 4/5 dpo when I first saw a line. I just had my 5th FET on 3/27. I know cramping can be a positive sign, but I'm so nervous. All this to say, pregnancy tests really don't show you exactly what is going on. We're doing IVF for obstructive azoospermia and were hoping by the time we got to this point, things would be smoother. First FET, negative FRER 6dp5dt. quitamp. Would… Sep 26, 2020 · 8dp5dt. Im 8dp5dt and have been testing since 4dp, got my first squinter at 6dp ( can’t tell you the relief FRER progression, FET 4dp5dt to 8dp5dt Line or no line? 2. My beta is tomorrow and I’m so nervous this could be a chemical. I don t think the line has progressed from 7dp5dt to 8dp5dt. Jun 28, 2018 · 1st beta (8dp5dt) was 69. I am trying to remain optimistic, and know that it is still early, but the past two times I tested with first response (in iVF cycles) they were positive The line strength is influenced by a lot of factors like the concentration of urine and the differences of the amount of dye in each individual test. 😩😩 I've got no desire to test I'd rather wait 8months and see if a baby pops out 👀. I wanted to share this in case it provides hope for some. The line isn’t as dark as the control, it’s maybe 50% as dark. no symptoms but had positive beta. A supportive and positive community to discuss your IVF journey. I know it's early to be testing (stupid trigger), but we are wondering if this may be a positive considering the darkness of the lines. Update: Beta is 115 at 10dp5dt so doubling appropriately. For that loss I got my first faint positive 6dp5dt but my lines pretty much vanished by day 8. My first transfer I tested at 4dp5dt and it was negative, waited until 6dp5dt and it had a faint line so I tested everyday from there to make sure it got stronger. The nurse who called me (and woke me up from a nap because I’m exhausted) said they like to see the first number over 50. Jun 23, 2021 · 53,423 members • 58,278 posts. My betas at 9, 11 and 17dp were all good. e. Picture of my tests from 1st of April to 6th of April. Does this line progressions seem normal or could it possibly be twins? I know there’s no guarantees but my mind is racing while I wait for my first US appointment . ️ Also at 5DP5DT and no symptoms, but trying hard not to symptom spot or worry about it. The first test was 6dp5dt at 5am The second test was 7dp5dt at 9pm (had time to darken which doesn't help) Third test was this morning at 5am. faint line which you probably can't see. I have had mild symptoms all along but I know that can go both ways. I’m new here Had my FET on 5/6. But for me the beta is all that matters—I’ve seen ladies with Mar 4, 2023 · Today I’m 8dp5dt, I’ve been testing pretty consistently. I’m really freaking out this morning Sep 3, 2020 · 8dp5dt. This decrease is likely due to the increased popularity of single embryo transfers (eSET). 2 blasts frozen. I’m currently pregnant with a single. Do you think this looks like a chemical and my test should be darker for being 8dp5dt? Today’s test is slightly darker than yesterday and both tests are pink in color. I’m just curious what your hcg level was at 14dp5dt or 4w4d or 19dpo. These are my FRER test from the last few days. These are my tests from 6dpt to 9dpt (6day on top and 9 on the bottom). May 17, 2022 at 3:01 PM. Mar 24, 2022 · No Line progression, low beta. 7% to 34. Heart beat 104 bpm. Jul 31, 2018 · I was having BFPs from 8dp5dt (didnt test before that) and i had a heap of cramping, my nurse said its usually because of the progesterone meds. I am 31F and had my first FET on 8/9 with a 5AA embryo. I took paracetamol if the pains were uncomfortable. k. I had some weird cramping and a tiny bit of pink-ish spotting on 8/12 (3dp) that lasted about a day. I mean it does look slightly darker but not much. Some women have way higher, some have Dec 18, 2022 · The struggle before beta is real . Hi all, I took an early pregnancy test on Sunday at 8dp5dt and got a strong pregnancy line and took a second test immediately after, photo attached. May 14, 2024 · Line eyes please! b. I even asked my RE if I should cancel because of the grief and she said in her medical opinion it wouldn’t affect the outcome. Hi Ladies, We had our frozen transfer last Friday , Dec 15, 2017. Last edited 06-19-19. Any thoughts? Feb 4, 2024 · I am 10DP5DT on my third transfer. 30pm. But if you only look at your last 4 tests, it’s a good progression for 10-13 dpo. I am 8dp5dt and the bottom test is mine from today, middle test is 7dp5dt and top 6dp5dt. My 8dpt HCG was 220. ht71521. Jul 9, 2023 · 9dp5dt lack of line progression. Just trying to make sense of my BFP. In Fertility Treatments. The lines have gotten darker but stayed pretty much the same between 8DP5DT and today which is 10DP5DT. So I’m 8dp5dt. Repeated all tests and decided to bank embryos for PGS testing due to history of BFNs. I always had cramps, sometimes like period pain and other times like a stabbing pain and always on left side. Doomed! BFN. Hey ladies! Does this look ok? very cautious to be excited due to the previous chemical!! Original poster's comments (5) 0. Now I’m feeling pretty devastated by that low number. Emoleeee. This is my test from yesterday (9DP5DT) and today (10DP5DT). Our IVFs: IVF #1 my eggs November/December 2013: Cancelled IVF due to poor response. Was about to do IVF then BANG 2. Below are both FMU, but when I took the test again in the afternoon on Apr 23, 2024 · IUI/IVF Support Group Line Progression 7dp5dt . No BFPs, no chemicals, never even seen a double line on HPT. May 14, 2024 at 4:40 AM. collsgould. My first was 98 my second was 196. For this FET, I got my first faint positive at 4dp5dt and they were getting darker up until now. The lines for 7 days post trigger / transfer look the same as 8 days post trigger / transfer. Is this going to be a chemical? 😩 the only hope I have at the moment is that the day 9 is a little bit darker than day 7. Changed REs in 2015. Dec 20, 2017 · 5dp5dt what to expect and when to test/. Posted 04-15-13. I didn’t test again until 8dp5dt where my test was darker on a FRER. 11 Oct - 5dp5dt made an impulsive First Response test which showed a visible line in like 5 seconds after I peed on it. Mar 24, 2022 at 3:53 AM. The top one was 7dpt pm and the bottom one is 8dptp pm. Apr 29, 2013 · littlesttiger. Remember that HCG starts at nothing, so it’s going to ramp up over time. l. Scan showing 6 weeks 1 day. 8DPT Beta success stories plz! April 23, 2024 | by Dec 24, 2017 · Hello ladies I found out through my early betas at my IVF clinic I am pregnant! I had my first beta 6dp5dt and it was a 17. If I let my delusional goblin brain win I can convince myself the test is maybe the teeniest tinge darker today, but my rational brain says it's still crazy light and hasn't meaningfully progressed. The test line isn't as dark as the control line Jan 4, 2013 · with @Manada: IUI# 1-7 (December 2012- September 2013) all BFN. [3] In 2011, the IVF twin rate was 8. Hello my head is everywhere I tested 8dp5dt and got a great faint line with a cheap asda test. 2 year break from all IVF (6) IVF Serum - Sept 2016 - 12 eggs - 11 fertilised - 3 3AA blasts transferred. Is it because Hi! I have been testing since 8dp5dt (first test) until this morning. Most HPTs will pick up an HCG reading 11 or 12 days after the embryo enters the uterus. HCG is short for human chorionic gonadotropin. So I’d say you’re in great shape. My beta is Monday 5/20. Posted 19-06-21. I'm 9dp5dt and although today's test isn't morning urine, my day 5 and 7 positives were afternoons too. Like. Feb 5, 2011 • 3:03 AM. Started IVF journey in 2012, 3 fresh cycles and 3 FET attempts with first RE resulted in 3 BFNs and 3 cancelled transfers. Pregnancy Week 42. I can't even believe that I am writing this, but I just had my first beta at 11dp5dt FET and we got our BFP!!! Our number came in at 632! The nurse said that was high and I go back in on Thursday to see how the numbers progress. Does anyone see my lines my progressing? I went from 6dp5dt to this morning of 8dp5dt. Again at 10 am I tested with a clear blue and no line. I would like some words of encouragements because I am so scared that I’m having a chemical. Ultrasound (1st pic) was 6w2d. 10dp5dt BFN. Do you think there is any hope? Feb 5, 2011 · Urine pregnancy test 8dp5dt (FET) Lizzieclot. I'm currently pregnant with di/di twins and my beta at 8dp5dt was 139. I got a vvvv faint line on 4dp5dt and got a true positive on 5dp5dt. 3. They are obviously there without needing to squint however, it hasn't changed (gotten lighter or darker) from 6dp to 7dp. With a strong positive on FRER I had allowed myself to feel hopeful. Jun 11, 2014 · 06/11/2014 12:39. q. h. The first one ended in a chemical. All come up within 2/3 minutes Apr 6, 2021 · Hi Everyone, I'm wondering if this looks normal to you or potentially a chemical pregnancy. LJhopefulmomtobe. This is our 2nd FET with 2 3AB blasts. D. Subject: Got negative on HPT 8dp5dt (8 days past my 5 day transfer) quote. Your HCG should be doubling ~ every 48-72 hours, so if you look at day 5 vs 7 or 6 vs 8, you can really see that progression. She got her bfp then but her hcg was low. @Mandm24, I was in your shoes in Feb. FYI, this is my second pregnancy, for my first born I had the same line progression but delayed by 1 day, implantation must have been faster on this one! This first pregnancy was fresh embryo transfer triggered Make sure to compare every other day for progression. I transferred a 4AA PGT test Day 6 embryo and got a positive test on 4dpt10dpt - 33812dpt - 56814dpt - 951This puts me at 68-70% Latest: 11 days ago | Hopeful10. I thought I saw a shadow of a squinter on the FRER in the afternoon at 7DP5DT, but didn't try the CB test. ri fb bn cf wx qj rc tp wi nn